1 00:00:07,030 --> 00:00:02,470 station this is the american geophysical 2 00:00:11,749 --> 00:00:09,589 a station we hear you loud and clear 3 00:00:13,509 --> 00:00:11,759 welcome aboard 4 00:00:15,749 --> 00:00:13,519 thank you and good afternoon station and 5 00:00:17,109 --> 00:00:15,759 on behalf of our agu members worldwide 6 00:00:20,630 --> 00:00:17,119 thank you for taking the time to speak 7 00:00:22,710 --> 00:00:20,640 with us our first question is for andre 8 00:00:24,790 --> 00:00:22,720 andre before launching to the station in 9 00:00:27,269 --> 00:00:24,800 november you said that working aboard 10 00:00:29,589 --> 00:00:27,279 the international space station is like 11 00:00:31,509 --> 00:00:29,599 quote standing with our toes in an ocean 12 00:00:32,950 --> 00:00:31,519 that's still to be discovered 13 00:00:34,630 --> 00:00:32,960 can you tell us more about what you 14 00:00:40,470 --> 00:00:34,640 meant by that and how your perspective 15 00:00:42,869 --> 00:00:41,270 well 16 00:00:45,670 --> 00:00:42,879 first of all the perspective didn't 17 00:00:47,750 --> 00:00:45,680 really change i still think that there's 18 00:00:49,510 --> 00:00:47,760 so much more to discover 19 00:00:50,790 --> 00:00:49,520 what i meant with standing with our toes 20 00:00:52,630 --> 00:00:50,800 in the water 21 00:00:54,389 --> 00:00:52,640 i don't know from whom the original 22 00:00:56,630 --> 00:00:54,399 quote was is that 23 00:00:59,510 --> 00:00:56,640 we're only at the beginning of of 24 00:01:01,910 --> 00:00:59,520 discovery uh discovery of the universe 25 00:01:04,869 --> 00:01:01,920 uh it's like like the whole ocean that 26 00:01:06,310 --> 00:01:04,879 is there to to uh to discover and you're 27 00:01:07,830 --> 00:01:06,320 only standing with your toes in the 28 00:01:10,789 --> 00:01:07,840 water so you still have to go with your 29 00:01:13,670 --> 00:01:10,799 feet your legs and uh all the way to uh 30 00:01:17,270 --> 00:01:13,680 to great depths and we do we will do the 31 00:01:20,149 --> 00:01:17,280 same thing with the universe and uh i 32 00:01:24,149 --> 00:01:20,159 i'm very privileged that i can be part 33 00:01:25,109 --> 00:01:24,159 of this first little step into the water 34 00:01:26,950 --> 00:01:25,119 joe 35 00:01:29,510 --> 00:01:26,960 your background includes geology 36 00:01:31,670 --> 00:01:29,520 hydrology environmental education work 37 00:01:33,429 --> 00:01:31,680 with the peace corps and teaching middle 38 00:01:35,030 --> 00:01:33,439 school science and math 39 00:01:36,630 --> 00:01:35,040 can you tell us how your space flights 40 00:01:42,789 --> 00:01:36,640 have affected your perspective on the 41 00:01:46,630 --> 00:01:44,389 yeah when you uh when you come up to 42 00:01:49,350 --> 00:01:46,640 space and you look back at the earth 43 00:01:51,350 --> 00:01:49,360 it's a it's just a beautiful sight 44 00:01:52,950 --> 00:01:51,360 and you have a chance to for the first 45 00:01:54,789 --> 00:01:52,960 time really to look at the big picture 46 00:01:57,510 --> 00:01:54,799 and a lot of what we do in geology is we 47 00:01:59,990 --> 00:01:57,520 look at small pieces and try to build 48 00:02:01,510 --> 00:02:00,000 together a bigger map and so from space 49 00:02:03,910 --> 00:02:01,520 we get to see that 50 00:02:05,830 --> 00:02:03,920 and you get to see the atmosphere you 51 00:02:07,429 --> 00:02:05,840 see how different parts of the earth 52 00:02:09,350 --> 00:02:07,439 interact with each other 53 00:02:11,990 --> 00:02:09,360 and so the importance of protecting the 54 00:02:14,070 --> 00:02:12,000 planet is very very evident from space 55 00:02:15,350 --> 00:02:14,080 and so i'm really glad to see that and 56 00:02:16,630 --> 00:02:15,360 when i get back 57 00:02:18,949 --> 00:02:16,640 and i go talk to students in the 58 00:02:20,630 --> 00:02:18,959 classroom it's really easy now to give 59 00:02:22,550 --> 00:02:20,640 them my perspective and to show them 60 00:02:24,550 --> 00:02:22,560 pictures to show how fragile the planet 61 00:02:27,190 --> 00:02:24,560 is and how much we need to do to protect 62 00:02:31,270 --> 00:02:29,670 dawn you've shot some amazing videos and 63 00:02:32,150 --> 00:02:31,280 photos during your three missions in 64 00:02:33,670 --> 00:02:32,160 space 65 00:02:35,270 --> 00:02:33,680 have you perceived the changes of the 66 00:02:36,309 --> 00:02:35,280 earth over that time 67 00:02:40,790 --> 00:02:36,319 and what have you seen that has 68 00:02:43,830 --> 00:02:42,070 one 69 00:02:47,430 --> 00:02:43,840 change that i've seen over earth is the 70 00:02:49,110 --> 00:02:47,440 uh the number of lights city lights at 71 00:02:50,790 --> 00:02:49,120 night time particularly over south 72 00:02:54,550 --> 00:02:50,800 america 73 00:02:56,869 --> 00:02:55,910 it was 74 00:02:57,830 --> 00:02:56,879 pretty 75 00:02:59,670 --> 00:02:57,840 dark 76 00:03:02,070 --> 00:02:59,680 and now it's 77 00:03:04,949 --> 00:03:02,080 amazing how lit up it is so 78 00:03:07,670 --> 00:03:04,959 so human beings are expanding and and we 79 00:03:09,910 --> 00:03:07,680 are advancing with our technology and 80 00:03:12,149 --> 00:03:09,920 electricity is part of that technology 81 00:03:15,670 --> 00:03:12,159 so it's it's a natural flow for human 82 00:03:18,470 --> 00:03:15,680 beings to expand and uh 83 00:03:21,030 --> 00:03:18,480 and in the process turn on their lights 84 00:03:23,350 --> 00:03:21,040 that's that's one of 85 00:03:24,630 --> 00:03:23,360 one effect that i've seen 86 00:03:26,070 --> 00:03:24,640 from 87 00:03:28,390 --> 00:03:26,080 this mission compared to my first 88 00:03:30,550 --> 00:03:28,400 mission 89 00:03:32,550 --> 00:03:30,560 this is a question for any of you 90 00:03:35,190 --> 00:03:32,560 we're expecting a solar maximum next 91 00:03:37,190 --> 00:03:35,200 year when the sun will be very active 92 00:03:38,949 --> 00:03:37,200 what do you do and what is it like to be 93 00:03:44,070 --> 00:03:38,959 on the space station during a major and 94 00:03:49,030 --> 00:03:46,630 well one consequence of solar max is 95 00:03:51,350 --> 00:03:49,040 that it inflates the atmosphere and it 96 00:03:52,390 --> 00:03:51,360 actually gets uh 97 00:03:55,429 --> 00:03:52,400 gets uh 98 00:03:57,030 --> 00:03:55,439 extends up to a higher uh altitude and 99 00:03:59,110 --> 00:03:57,040 and i think it actually protects space 100 00:04:02,470 --> 00:03:59,120 station a little bit more so 101 00:04:03,350 --> 00:04:02,480 so uh so so that's one aspect of a solar 102 00:04:06,550 --> 00:04:03,360 max 103 00:04:08,869 --> 00:04:06,560 another aspect is uh we could get some 104 00:04:09,990 --> 00:04:08,879 outstanding displays of aurora and there 105 00:04:12,309 --> 00:04:10,000 will be 106 00:04:15,030 --> 00:04:12,319 particle events uh 107 00:04:16,550 --> 00:04:15,040 eruption solar proton events 108 00:04:17,590 --> 00:04:16,560 that can 109 00:04:19,990 --> 00:04:17,600 can 110 00:04:22,069 --> 00:04:20,000 increase the the radiation that 111 00:04:24,870 --> 00:04:22,079 astronauts would receive in a low-earth 112 00:04:27,189 --> 00:04:24,880 orbit scenario 113 00:04:29,270 --> 00:04:27,199 this is another question for any of you 114 00:04:31,430 --> 00:04:29,280 by now you have all spent significant 115 00:04:33,909 --> 00:04:31,440 time in space and have hopefully had a 116 00:04:35,670 --> 00:04:33,919 lot of time to observe the earth now 117 00:04:38,070 --> 00:04:35,680 when you look out the window can you 118 00:04:40,070 --> 00:04:38,080 differentiate among landmark geological 119 00:04:47,510 --> 00:04:40,080 features on the earth for example can 120 00:04:53,270 --> 00:04:50,790 yes absolutely sometimes i'm surprised 121 00:04:56,550 --> 00:04:53,280 that i just look out the window even at 122 00:04:58,469 --> 00:04:56,560 night sometimes and i recognize the the 123 00:05:01,430 --> 00:04:58,479 area uh 124 00:05:04,629 --> 00:05:01,440 sometimes it's the colors uh australia 125 00:05:06,790 --> 00:05:04,639 is very distinct uh from for example 126 00:05:09,990 --> 00:05:06,800 sahara sometimes you you see a feature 127 00:05:12,629 --> 00:05:10,000 then you know that you're over tibet 128 00:05:16,310 --> 00:05:12,639 so it you learn the earth very well up 129 00:05:18,550 --> 00:05:16,320 here and uh and and and well i would say 130 00:05:20,469 --> 00:05:18,560 89 of the time 131 00:05:25,189 --> 00:05:20,479 i'm more or less right 132 00:05:29,749 --> 00:05:26,950 uh with the announcement yesterday that 133 00:05:32,390 --> 00:05:29,759 china's senjo 9 spacecraft docked with 134 00:05:33,830 --> 00:05:32,400 the tiangong-1 space lab module what do 135 00:05:38,469 --> 00:05:33,840 you think about china's plans to 136 00:05:41,830 --> 00:05:39,990 uh well 137 00:05:43,590 --> 00:05:41,840 before they launched there were six 138 00:05:45,909 --> 00:05:43,600 people in space 139 00:05:49,350 --> 00:05:45,919 and there's seven billion people on 140 00:05:51,749 --> 00:05:49,360 earth so we're like one in a billion 141 00:05:53,670 --> 00:05:51,759 now there are nine people in space and 142 00:05:55,830 --> 00:05:53,680 if you're a good engineer or scientist 143 00:05:58,710 --> 00:05:55,840 looking at that you'd say well that's 144 00:06:00,309 --> 00:05:58,720 like two in a billion so 145 00:06:02,230 --> 00:06:00,319 so the 146 00:06:05,270 --> 00:06:02,240 gradient of human beings going into 147 00:06:07,749 --> 00:06:05,280 space is moving in the right direction 148 00:06:09,510 --> 00:06:07,759 we we need to change these numbers so 149 00:06:12,870 --> 00:06:09,520 that more and more human beings can call 150 00:06:15,510 --> 00:06:12,880 space their home and we can expand off a 151 00:06:17,590 --> 00:06:15,520 planet earth and move out into our solar 152 00:06:20,950 --> 00:06:17,600 system so this is a step in the right 153 00:06:23,029 --> 00:06:20,960 direction and the more uh entities 154 00:06:24,150 --> 00:06:23,039 working on trying to achieve this the 155 00:06:27,350 --> 00:06:24,160 better 156 00:06:31,110 --> 00:06:29,270 don since you still have the microphone 157 00:06:33,110 --> 00:06:31,120 tell us during your pre-flight interview 158 00:06:35,590 --> 00:06:33,120 you said that adventures like living in 159 00:06:36,710 --> 00:06:35,600 space teach you lessons that can be used 160 00:06:38,150 --> 00:06:36,720 back home 161 00:06:40,230 --> 00:06:38,160 what lessons have you learned on the 162 00:06:44,309 --> 00:06:40,240 station that will you will use back on 163 00:06:48,950 --> 00:06:47,510 well one whimsical 164 00:06:52,309 --> 00:06:48,960 answer would be 165 00:06:55,270 --> 00:06:52,319 never pass up a chance to eat a pouch of 166 00:06:57,350 --> 00:06:55,280 mashed potatoes 167 00:06:59,909 --> 00:06:57,360 and of course that could be oriented 168 00:07:01,270 --> 00:06:59,919 towards my family when we're eating at 169 00:07:02,950 --> 00:07:01,280 the dinner table 170 00:07:05,670 --> 00:07:02,960 but 171 00:07:08,309 --> 00:07:05,680 lessons you learn lessons about yourself 172 00:07:09,350 --> 00:07:08,319 you learn lessons about humanity in 173 00:07:12,629 --> 00:07:09,360 general 174 00:07:15,589 --> 00:07:12,639 and you learn lessons in science about 175 00:07:17,670 --> 00:07:15,599 how things move and operate around you 176 00:07:20,710 --> 00:07:17,680 and and you take these lessons back with 177 00:07:23,990 --> 00:07:20,720 you and another example is just uh 178 00:07:26,309 --> 00:07:24,000 conservation of angular momentum uh i 179 00:07:28,150 --> 00:07:26,319 saw one of my vitamin tablets floating 180 00:07:29,589 --> 00:07:28,160 across the room and it was tumbling end 181 00:07:31,430 --> 00:07:29,599 over end 182 00:07:32,629 --> 00:07:31,440 and it hit the wall 183 00:07:35,189 --> 00:07:32,639 and 184 00:07:38,469 --> 00:07:35,199 it stopped tumbling end over end but 185 00:07:40,309 --> 00:07:38,479 moved off at a much faster speed than it 186 00:07:42,390 --> 00:07:40,319 then its center of 187 00:07:44,710 --> 00:07:42,400 mass was moving at the time it hit the 188 00:07:47,670 --> 00:07:44,720 wall so it exchanged angular momentum 189 00:07:49,430 --> 00:07:47,680 for linear momentum and you see 190 00:07:51,589 --> 00:07:49,440 textbook you read about these things in 191 00:07:54,469 --> 00:07:51,599 textbooks but then you get to see them 192 00:07:56,390 --> 00:07:54,479 here and that imprints your mind and 193 00:07:58,950 --> 00:07:56,400 then when i go back 194 00:08:01,029 --> 00:07:58,960 to earth and i start doing engineering 195 00:08:02,790 --> 00:08:01,039 that little tidbit is going to be stuck 196 00:08:05,350 --> 00:08:02,800 in my mind and who knows where it might 197 00:08:08,070 --> 00:08:05,360 surface for some new kind of uh 198 00:08:11,430 --> 00:08:09,830 and this is another question for dawn 199 00:08:12,469 --> 00:08:11,440 but i'd be curious to hear all of your 200 00:08:14,869 --> 00:08:12,479 answers 201 00:08:17,029 --> 00:08:14,879 dawn your june 11th blog post was a poem 202 00:08:18,790 --> 00:08:17,039 that included the line your last day on 203 00:08:20,790 --> 00:08:18,800 earth what would you do 204 00:08:22,230 --> 00:08:20,800 it makes us think of a bigger picture 205 00:08:23,909 --> 00:08:22,240 tell us what you think about during the 206 00:08:25,510 --> 00:08:23,919 quiet moments on the station or when 207 00:08:30,070 --> 00:08:25,520 you're looking out the window what are 208 00:08:34,389 --> 00:08:31,189 well 209 00:08:35,110 --> 00:08:34,399 funny you should mention that because 210 00:08:39,029 --> 00:08:35,120 i 211 00:08:41,670 --> 00:08:39,039 earth 212 00:08:44,870 --> 00:08:41,680 and i'm writing the compliment poem 213 00:08:47,430 --> 00:08:44,880 because we are 214 00:08:50,710 --> 00:08:47,440 a week away from returning 215 00:08:53,750 --> 00:08:50,720 and and the title of this one is last 216 00:08:56,470 --> 00:08:53,760 day in space and it's not done yet so 217 00:08:58,150 --> 00:08:56,480 you'll just have to wait and and see how 218 00:09:02,790 --> 00:08:58,160 it turns out i don't even know how it's 219 00:09:06,870 --> 00:09:05,110 well it's pretty nice when you can uh 220 00:09:09,350 --> 00:09:06,880 sit up in the cupola 221 00:09:10,790 --> 00:09:09,360 and you can get the node nice and dark 222 00:09:12,230 --> 00:09:10,800 the other crewmates are off doing 223 00:09:13,910 --> 00:09:12,240 something else and you have a chance to 224 00:09:16,550 --> 00:09:13,920 look back at the earth 225 00:09:18,230 --> 00:09:16,560 and you do think about how fortunate we 226 00:09:20,389 --> 00:09:18,240 are to have this opportunity we're very 227 00:09:22,470 --> 00:09:20,399 very lucky to be here it's an honor and 228 00:09:24,389 --> 00:09:22,480 a privilege and 229 00:09:26,150 --> 00:09:24,399 it just makes you think about how 230 00:09:28,470 --> 00:09:26,160 beautiful our planet is and how much 231 00:09:30,070 --> 00:09:28,480 more we have to learn and all the 232 00:09:31,910 --> 00:09:30,080 exciting times that are ahead of us so 233 00:09:33,910 --> 00:09:31,920 it's great to be here 234 00:09:35,269 --> 00:09:33,920 and i envy those kids that are out there 235 00:09:41,110 --> 00:09:35,279 now for the adventures that they're 236 00:09:46,070 --> 00:09:43,430 every time when i look out of the window 237 00:09:47,990 --> 00:09:46,080 it looks like the first time every time 238 00:09:50,230 --> 00:09:48,000 it's it's so magnificent that i think 239 00:09:52,630 --> 00:09:50,240 this is awesome and i try to to keep 240 00:09:55,590 --> 00:09:52,640 that moment and what we can do we can 241 00:09:58,310 --> 00:09:55,600 take our pictures uh when i try to to 242 00:10:00,230 --> 00:09:58,320 keep it in in my mind um this is 243 00:10:02,150 --> 00:10:00,240 probably the last time that uh the last 244 00:10:04,389 --> 00:10:02,160 week that i'm up here 245 00:10:07,030 --> 00:10:04,399 and it's a it's a fantastic pattern but 246 00:10:09,430 --> 00:10:07,040 also very fragile i wish everybody could 247 00:10:12,790 --> 00:10:09,440 could see this and realize that it's one 248 00:10:15,030 --> 00:10:12,800 planet uh with limited resources 249 00:10:16,710 --> 00:10:15,040 beautiful uh but fragile and i think 250 00:10:20,389 --> 00:10:16,720 this is one of the most important things 251 00:10:22,069 --> 00:10:20,399 that that i can bring back home 252 00:10:23,829 --> 00:10:22,079 thank you all very much for your time 253 00:10:25,910 --> 00:10:23,839 and wonderful answers and on behalf of 254 00:10:31,350 --> 00:10:25,920 all the agu andre and don we wish you a 255 00:10:36,310 --> 00:10:34,069 thanks for coming aboard and uh we'll 256 00:10:40,630 --> 00:10:36,320 look forward to 257 00:10:44,790 --> 00:10:42,870 a station this is houston acr that 258 00:10:46,630 --> 00:10:44,800 concludes the american geophysical union 259 00:10:55,990 --> 00:10:46,640 part of the event please stand by for a 260 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:08,949 hi nasa can you hear me 261 00:11:08,959 --> 00:11:13,350 station we can hear you 262 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:17,430 great can you hear me 263 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:39,590 we hear you loud and clear 264 00:11:45,670 --> 00:11:43,190 5 25 straight up here we go three 265 00:11:50,470 --> 00:11:48,230 so the recent success of private space 266 00:11:52,389 --> 00:11:50,480 companies such as spacex changing the 267 00:11:53,670 --> 00:11:52,399 way mankind looks at space flight we've 268 00:11:55,829 --> 00:11:53,680 talked a lot about it on the fox 269 00:11:57,910 --> 00:11:55,839 business network and it also changes the 270 00:12:00,310 --> 00:11:57,920 way staples such as the international 271 00:12:02,710 --> 00:12:00,320 space station operate joining us now 272 00:12:03,910 --> 00:12:02,720 expedition 31 flight engineers nasa 273 00:12:06,150 --> 00:12:03,920 astronauts 274 00:12:08,629 --> 00:12:06,160 joe acaba don pettit is also there as 275 00:12:10,470 --> 00:12:08,639 well as andre kuipers who's from the 276 00:12:12,310 --> 00:12:10,480 european space agency native of the 277 00:12:13,590 --> 00:12:12,320 netherlands good to see all of you guys 278 00:12:16,150 --> 00:12:13,600 and welcome to everybody watching us 279 00:12:17,670 --> 00:12:16,160 live on nasa tv today but uh 280 00:12:19,750 --> 00:12:17,680 it's great to get a chance to talk and 281 00:12:20,870 --> 00:12:19,760 as i've said we have talked a lot about 282 00:12:21,750 --> 00:12:20,880 the story 283 00:12:23,509 --> 00:12:21,760 of 284 00:12:25,670 --> 00:12:23,519 private companies taking over for 285 00:12:27,350 --> 00:12:25,680 governments doing what you do 286 00:12:29,750 --> 00:12:27,360 i'll start with joe but i want everybody 287 00:12:31,190 --> 00:12:29,760 to answer it in succession don and andre 288 00:12:32,710 --> 00:12:31,200 pick right up on it what's the 289 00:12:33,829 --> 00:12:32,720 difference been in working with private 290 00:12:39,750 --> 00:12:33,839 companies and what do you think it means 291 00:12:43,509 --> 00:12:41,670 well it's been a pleasure working with 292 00:12:45,430 --> 00:12:43,519 spacex on their first mission to the 293 00:12:48,069 --> 00:12:45,440 international space station 294 00:12:50,230 --> 00:12:48,079 um i think it's a it's a great step in 295 00:12:51,910 --> 00:12:50,240 the right direction it means a lot for 296 00:12:54,310 --> 00:12:51,920 where we're going in the future if we 297 00:12:56,069 --> 00:12:54,320 can have private organizations helping 298 00:12:58,230 --> 00:12:56,079 us get to low earth orbit to do the 299 00:13:01,030 --> 00:12:58,240 science that we're doing here it really 300 00:13:02,710 --> 00:13:01,040 frees nasa up to do some bigger and 301 00:13:04,150 --> 00:13:02,720 greater things further away from earth 302 00:13:09,350 --> 00:13:04,160 so i think it's a great step in the 303 00:13:13,350 --> 00:13:11,430 and i think in space flight is not much 304 00:13:14,389 --> 00:13:13,360 different than what we have seen of 305 00:13:17,670 --> 00:13:14,399 course 306 00:13:19,990 --> 00:13:17,680 on earth be it in in shipping or of 307 00:13:21,829 --> 00:13:20,000 course in aviation the first steps the 308 00:13:23,750 --> 00:13:21,839 difficult steps the investments are done 309 00:13:25,350 --> 00:13:23,760 by governments and then companies take 310 00:13:27,430 --> 00:13:25,360 over and 311 00:13:28,790 --> 00:13:27,440 the same thing will happen in space 312 00:13:32,550 --> 00:13:28,800 flight be it 313 00:13:37,350 --> 00:13:32,560 cargo transportation or tourism so it's 314 00:13:42,230 --> 00:13:40,550 and private companies don't 315 00:13:46,310 --> 00:13:42,240 seem to be able to do things in a little 316 00:13:47,269 --> 00:13:46,320 more relaxed nature just in terms of of 317 00:13:49,829 --> 00:13:47,279 uh 318 00:13:52,550 --> 00:13:49,839 looking at their their mission control 319 00:13:55,430 --> 00:13:52,560 and and and how how they are are 320 00:13:57,269 --> 00:13:55,440 conducting themselves it it it's 321 00:14:01,110 --> 00:13:57,279 interesting to note the difference 322 00:14:03,030 --> 00:14:01,120 between the nasa mission control and the 323 00:14:05,750 --> 00:14:03,040 the spacex mission control just as an 324 00:14:07,030 --> 00:14:05,760 example yeah let me stick with uh don 325 00:14:09,269 --> 00:14:07,040 because i know you guys are passing 326 00:14:10,150 --> 00:14:09,279 along the microphone there and and ask 327 00:14:10,949 --> 00:14:10,160 the following question because there 328 00:14:12,629 --> 00:14:10,959 were a number of interesting 329 00:14:14,230 --> 00:14:12,639 observations that i heard from all three 330 00:14:15,590 --> 00:14:14,240 of you there that there weren't huge 331 00:14:18,389 --> 00:14:15,600 differences but it was more as nonsense 332 00:14:21,189 --> 00:14:18,399 more relaxed compared to what we've seen 333 00:14:23,110 --> 00:14:21,199 um in the past so with that let me get 334 00:14:24,870 --> 00:14:23,120 to the original point that was made 335 00:14:27,670 --> 00:14:24,880 about the science that you guys are 336 00:14:29,110 --> 00:14:27,680 doing up there if someone says hey 337 00:14:30,790 --> 00:14:29,120 governments not only the united states 338 00:14:33,189 --> 00:14:30,800 but europe and all the other governments 339 00:14:34,389 --> 00:14:33,199 are are spending so much money and now 340 00:14:36,870 --> 00:14:34,399 private companies are spending so much 341 00:14:39,350 --> 00:14:36,880 money on space exploration justify it 342 00:14:41,670 --> 00:14:39,360 for us why is it still worth it and what 343 00:14:45,030 --> 00:14:41,680 are you doing that will help us here up 344 00:14:47,590 --> 00:14:45,910 well 345 00:14:48,629 --> 00:14:47,600 yeah you have to remember that exploring 346 00:14:50,790 --> 00:14:48,639 space 347 00:14:53,030 --> 00:14:50,800 is not just about doing science science 348 00:14:57,030 --> 00:14:53,040 is part of exploring space uh 349 00:15:00,389 --> 00:14:57,040 exploration is a social endeavor that 350 00:15:03,990 --> 00:15:00,399 that a a society a government with their 351 00:15:08,230 --> 00:15:04,000 people decide to do and and with that 352 00:15:10,550 --> 00:15:08,240 will reap long-term benefits and history 353 00:15:13,990 --> 00:15:10,560 shows this you look at the countries 354 00:15:16,870 --> 00:15:14,000 that did transoceanic exploration in 355 00:15:19,829 --> 00:15:16,880 the 16th 17th and 18th century and and 356 00:15:23,350 --> 00:15:19,839 they basically defined the map of the 357 00:15:26,150 --> 00:15:23,360 world at that point in time and the same 358 00:15:27,670 --> 00:15:26,160 thing's going to happen with space and 359 00:15:31,910 --> 00:15:27,680 and the 360 00:15:35,110 --> 00:15:31,920 countries that decide to participate in 361 00:15:37,829 --> 00:15:35,120 exploration of space will be the same as 362 00:15:39,670 --> 00:15:37,839 the countries that tried that that 363 00:15:41,110 --> 00:15:39,680 participated in the trans-oceanic 364 00:15:45,189 --> 00:15:41,120 exploration they will be the ones that 365 00:15:47,110 --> 00:15:45,199 define the meaning of this epic in time